Comments on: Malaysian Palm Oil Council tries to strikes back http://understory.ran.org/2009/09/09/orangutans-benefit-from-oil-palm-says-malyasian-palm-oil-council-ceo/ The Understory is the official blog of Rainforest Action Network. Wed, 08 Feb 2012 14:08:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Winmac http://understory.ran.org/2009/09/09/orangutans-benefit-from-oil-palm-says-malyasian-palm-oil-council-ceo/comment-page-1/#comment-471868 Winmac Fri, 27 Aug 2010 04:43:21 +0000 http://understory.ran.org/?p=3800#comment-471868 More than 20 percent and it's a big thing? Malaysia pledge to have 50% of it's land under forest in the Rio Summit. What they wanted to do with rest of the 50% is totally up to the country as they too have rights to develop their land. A high yielding crop like palm oil helps to avoid more deforestation as bigger land are needed for other crop to match the yield that oil palm trees does. Search for FELDA case - an award winning federal scheme from the UN. all of the farmers are now living decently with good house and even cars which they wouldn't even dream of 20 years back. All you guys care is forest. what good is forest is people are hungry and live in poverty? Without doubt there are some human-animal conflict when you open up new agricultural land but most of them are sent to sanctuaries, so you westeners who had killed all of your native animals, can see some exotic creatures. and the population is still big, far far away from extinction. More than 20 percent and it’s a big thing? Malaysia pledge to have 50% of it’s land under forest in the Rio Summit. What they wanted to do with rest of the 50% is totally up to the country as they too have rights to develop their land. A high yielding crop like palm oil helps to avoid more deforestation as bigger land are needed for other crop to match the yield that oil palm trees does. Search for FELDA case – an award winning federal scheme from the UN. all of the farmers are now living decently with good house and even cars which they wouldn’t even dream of 20 years back. All you guys care is forest. what good is forest is people are hungry and live in poverty? Without doubt there are some human-animal conflict when you open up new agricultural land but most of them are sent to sanctuaries, so you westeners who had killed all of your native animals, can see some exotic creatures. and the population is still big, far far away from extinction.

]]> By: Palm Oil http://understory.ran.org/2009/09/09/orangutans-benefit-from-oil-palm-says-malyasian-palm-oil-council-ceo/comment-page-1/#comment-397768 Palm Oil Wed, 03 Feb 2010 04:08:21 +0000 http://understory.ran.org/?p=3800#comment-397768 Agreed.. Sabah is the largest producer of oil palm in Malaysia.. the land usage is actually more than 20%.. you can see them very clearly using Google Maps. We hope for the better management of the plantation in that area as currently the ratio of production to land area is quite small. Agreed.. Sabah is the largest producer of oil palm in Malaysia.. the land usage is actually more than 20%.. you can see them very clearly using Google Maps.

We hope for the better management of the plantation in that area as currently the ratio of production to land area is quite small.

]]> By: Katy http://understory.ran.org/2009/09/09/orangutans-benefit-from-oil-palm-says-malyasian-palm-oil-council-ceo/comment-page-1/#comment-373232 Katy Wed, 09 Sep 2009 23:39:42 +0000 http://understory.ran.org/?p=3800#comment-373232 This is very interesting. I just got back from a trip to Sabah Malaysia. I wanted to listen openly to the "Malaysians side of the story." They claim that only 20% of Sabah is Palm Oil plantation - which I found hard to believe as I could only see Palm Oil plantations in every direction from the plane. I want to further investigate on Google Earth. The Malaysian government also says that they do not use any forested or partially forested areas for palm oil plantations - they only use areas that were already destroyed by the logging industry. According to their government no forests are allowed to be cut down for plantations. It's interesting talking to the people (most are not willing to talk about palm oil) but the few that are seem to not be fans - they feel the rich people of West Malaysia make most of the money from the plantations. Eco tourism is starting to be a big industry and Sabah and locals can see that maintaining forests can also be valuable. This is very interesting. I just got back from a trip to Sabah Malaysia. I wanted to listen openly to the “Malaysians side of the story.” They claim that only 20% of Sabah is Palm Oil plantation – which I found hard to believe as I could only see Palm Oil plantations in every direction from the plane. I want to further investigate on Google Earth.

The Malaysian government also says that they do not use any forested or partially forested areas for palm oil plantations – they only use areas that were already destroyed by the logging industry. According to their government no forests are allowed to be cut down for plantations.

It’s interesting talking to the people (most are not willing to talk about palm oil) but the few that are seem to not be fans – they feel the rich people of West Malaysia make most of the money from the plantations. Eco tourism is starting to be a big industry and Sabah and locals can see that maintaining forests can also be valuable.

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