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	<title>Comments on: Video: Mountain Action team shuts down and climbs 20 story dragline</title>
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		<title>By: Gabriella Simonetti, a 13 year old from Asheville, NC</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gabriella Simonetti, a 13 year old from Asheville, NC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 02:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To all of those saying what they did is wrong, is entirely untrue. Mountaintop removal hurts the land we live on, and it said in the video its nothing against the people that do it, they understand everyone needs money to survive. But just know I live in these appalachian mountains and I would hate to see them swept away in the next five years for some god damn un-renewable energy. If you really studied up on your facts that I a mere 13 year old knows already, and stopped your hatred and realy listened to the meaning of the video you would understand Mountaintop removal is extremely bad and is also causing global warming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To all of those saying what they did is wrong, is entirely untrue. Mountaintop removal hurts the land we live on, and it said in the video its nothing against the people that do it, they understand everyone needs money to survive. But just know I live in these appalachian mountains and I would hate to see them swept away in the next five years for some god damn un-renewable energy. If you really studied up on your facts that I a mere 13 year old knows already, and stopped your hatred and realy listened to the meaning of the video you would understand Mountaintop removal is extremely bad and is also causing global warming.</p>
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		<title>By: james m huffman</title>
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		<dc:creator>james m huffman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 08:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>look its starts with mtr . where dose it stop ? dont try to sit there and tell me that oh an underground mine is safe, clean, and the best way ... have you ever seen a coal refuge from a deep mine .. Its a valley fill . Have you ever seen the slury ponds at a deep mine ? look you and I can go back and forth on hear about who is right and wrong . but the simple fact is coal wins you lose . mt top mines are hear and there going to be hear there is nothing you can do about it . go to north caralina why should I have to leave my birth place to go to freaking NC to make 12$ an hr at a sock facktory . i have worked all around this country drilling . and i never made better or stedder work then hear in the mines so na i beleave im hear to stay dont beleave me just push back me in a corner</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>look its starts with mtr . where dose it stop ? dont try to sit there and tell me that oh an underground mine is safe, clean, and the best way &#8230; have you ever seen a coal refuge from a deep mine .. Its a valley fill . Have you ever seen the slury ponds at a deep mine ? look you and I can go back and forth on hear about who is right and wrong . but the simple fact is coal wins you lose . mt top mines are hear and there going to be hear there is nothing you can do about it . go to north caralina why should I have to leave my birth place to go to freaking NC to make 12$ an hr at a sock facktory . i have worked all around this country drilling . and i never made better or stedder work then hear in the mines so na i beleave im hear to stay dont beleave me just push back me in a corner</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 15:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It don&#039;t matter, you could care less!!&quot;:

I&#039;ll put my nose wherever I want, this is a &quot;free&quot; country. I will especially put it where I find irresponsible plunderers like your husband. Why should all of us have to suffer because your husband wants to work in the coal industry? Why should other people&#039;s children have to get sick, and in some cases die, so that you husband can help blow up a mountain? 

Are you telling me the ONLY thing you and your husband can do to &quot;make a living&quot; is mine coal? Ridiculous. This &quot;providing for their families&quot; line is the same bull I hear about whalers, sealers, lumberjacks... you name it. I despise this justification of exploitation. If you can&#039;t provide for a family any other way then perhaps you shouldn&#039;t have had a family, but you probably never considered that did you? I&#039;m tired of people&#039;s flagrant irresponsibility, and I have no more sympathy for you. 

My sympathy is reserved for people who&#039;ve had their homes and land destroyed by the slurry dam failure in Tennessee. My sympathy is for kids who have to go to school in the shadow of a damn just like it. My sympathy is for the thousands of Americans who die every year because of the coal industry: the old, the young, and the unlucky. My sympathy is for the unique and brilliant beauty of the Appalachian mountains and the life it supports which is being irreversibly destroyed by people like your husband.

Someday people will realize that allowing others to exploit and destroy the planet is the most offensive crime you can commit. But for now I have to put up with people like you, who believe it is somehow noble...

As for Obama - you should love him. He supports big coal, especially coal mining in Appalachia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It don&#8217;t matter, you could care less!!&#8221;:</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll put my nose wherever I want, this is a &#8220;free&#8221; country. I will especially put it where I find irresponsible plunderers like your husband. Why should all of us have to suffer because your husband wants to work in the coal industry? Why should other people&#8217;s children have to get sick, and in some cases die, so that you husband can help blow up a mountain? </p>
<p>Are you telling me the ONLY thing you and your husband can do to &#8220;make a living&#8221; is mine coal? Ridiculous. This &#8220;providing for their families&#8221; line is the same bull I hear about whalers, sealers, lumberjacks&#8230; you name it. I despise this justification of exploitation. If you can&#8217;t provide for a family any other way then perhaps you shouldn&#8217;t have had a family, but you probably never considered that did you? I&#8217;m tired of people&#8217;s flagrant irresponsibility, and I have no more sympathy for you. </p>
<p>My sympathy is reserved for people who&#8217;ve had their homes and land destroyed by the slurry dam failure in Tennessee. My sympathy is for kids who have to go to school in the shadow of a damn just like it. My sympathy is for the thousands of Americans who die every year because of the coal industry: the old, the young, and the unlucky. My sympathy is for the unique and brilliant beauty of the Appalachian mountains and the life it supports which is being irreversibly destroyed by people like your husband.</p>
<p>Someday people will realize that allowing others to exploit and destroy the planet is the most offensive crime you can commit. But for now I have to put up with people like you, who believe it is somehow noble&#8230;</p>
<p>As for Obama &#8211; you should love him. He supports big coal, especially coal mining in Appalachia.</p>
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		<title>By: It don't matter, you could care less!!</title>
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		<dc:creator>It don't matter, you could care less!!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 04:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can I expect you to pay my bills when my husband looses his job thanks to YOU???? You all need to go back to the rock you crawled out from under in the first place..and take obama with you. I refuse to capitalize his name, he deserves no respect in my book...along with all of you! Fight something worth fighting, like abortion or starving children, leave our hard working men alone. They are providing for their families, and you all need to keep your noses out of it!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can I expect you to pay my bills when my husband looses his job thanks to YOU???? You all need to go back to the rock you crawled out from under in the first place..and take obama with you. I refuse to capitalize his name, he deserves no respect in my book&#8230;along with all of you! Fight something worth fighting, like abortion or starving children, leave our hard working men alone. They are providing for their families, and you all need to keep your noses out of it!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Badenoch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Badenoch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 04:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone tried to establish the entire Appalachian Mountains as a UNESCO World Heritage Site? or a National Landmark?  That would legally preclude any more MTR forever.  There must be a legal way to stop this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone tried to establish the entire Appalachian Mountains as a UNESCO World Heritage Site? or a National Landmark?  That would legally preclude any more MTR forever.  There must be a legal way to stop this.</p>
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		<title>By: Judy Bonds</title>
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		<dc:creator>Judy Bonds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 16:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in WV and 68% of the people in WV are against strip mining and The Board of Education and Wall Mart are the biggest employers in WV. There is only 20 years of coal left in Appalachia so the knuckle draggers that Massey bought to post here is lying to you all. New science studies in WV and Kentucky prove that mining is costing our states -our health and our property 4 times more than we get from coal. We are giving the coal companies corporate welfare to pay people to blast and poison our homes and communities. The people in the communities are now gathering evidence to sue the coal companies and maybe the workers for the damages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in WV and 68% of the people in WV are against strip mining and The Board of Education and Wall Mart are the biggest employers in WV. There is only 20 years of coal left in Appalachia so the knuckle draggers that Massey bought to post here is lying to you all. New science studies in WV and Kentucky prove that mining is costing our states -our health and our property 4 times more than we get from coal. We are giving the coal companies corporate welfare to pay people to blast and poison our homes and communities. The people in the communities are now gathering evidence to sue the coal companies and maybe the workers for the damages.</p>
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		<title>By: WV resident</title>
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		<dc:creator>WV resident</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 16:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey pro MTR folks

This is not an issue of outsiders against WV miners.  You can keep on saying that until you go blue in the face, folks.  And asking if we have ever seen a reclaim is also silly.  Yes, I have seen MANY, and I have looked through the permits and evacuation plans and been on the major slurry impoundments in this area, as well as talked with the mine inspectors, MSHA, DEP, and many local residents who have lost their water, had their foundation of their homes destroyed, are choked by dust after blasting, or who have children who are quite literally scared at night when it rains.  I AM A WEST VIRGINIAN and I come from coal mining and my family does not support MTR in any way.  Now, tell me, why can&#039;t we work together to provide jobs in this area instead of attacking each other in the name of Massey?  Instead of telling us to go home (and ignoring the people who live here and pretending that everyone here is pro MTR, which is an outright lie) why don&#039;t you go door to door and visit your own neighbors who are suffering and scared?  or do you have to believe that those people don&#039;t exist and that this movement is all outsiders?  Please address this question.  If your water and land are fine, then thank God, but that does not mean that everyone else is fine.  Go and see for yourself, and if you would like, tell me where to go see a reclaimed mine site with the &quot;habitat restored&quot; and then perhaps we can have a productive conversation.  I spent over a year traveling around to these reclaimed sites.  How much time have you spent sitting with West Virginian families who feel that your husband&#039;s job is taking away a good life for THEIR children?  Are you going to direct all of this hateful defensive &quot;coal is WV&quot; crap at them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey pro MTR folks</p>
<p>This is not an issue of outsiders against WV miners.  You can keep on saying that until you go blue in the face, folks.  And asking if we have ever seen a reclaim is also silly.  Yes, I have seen MANY, and I have looked through the permits and evacuation plans and been on the major slurry impoundments in this area, as well as talked with the mine inspectors, MSHA, DEP, and many local residents who have lost their water, had their foundation of their homes destroyed, are choked by dust after blasting, or who have children who are quite literally scared at night when it rains.  I AM A WEST VIRGINIAN and I come from coal mining and my family does not support MTR in any way.  Now, tell me, why can&#8217;t we work together to provide jobs in this area instead of attacking each other in the name of Massey?  Instead of telling us to go home (and ignoring the people who live here and pretending that everyone here is pro MTR, which is an outright lie) why don&#8217;t you go door to door and visit your own neighbors who are suffering and scared?  or do you have to believe that those people don&#8217;t exist and that this movement is all outsiders?  Please address this question.  If your water and land are fine, then thank God, but that does not mean that everyone else is fine.  Go and see for yourself, and if you would like, tell me where to go see a reclaimed mine site with the &#8220;habitat restored&#8221; and then perhaps we can have a productive conversation.  I spent over a year traveling around to these reclaimed sites.  How much time have you spent sitting with West Virginian families who feel that your husband&#8217;s job is taking away a good life for THEIR children?  Are you going to direct all of this hateful defensive &#8220;coal is WV&#8221; crap at them?</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 14:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I support the people of WV! Those fighting against old KING Coal! I support all those who have lost a loved one, or gotten cancer, or lost a child due to the pollution that COAL has brought to these communities.  I support those elders who have to sweep the coal dust from their front porches everyday, those whose land has washed away, who have lost their homes to COAL!   I support those who prefer wind or solar energy! And no, I won&#039;t suffer or complain without electricity! We should be a little uncomfortable, it helps us remember that we are humans! NOT GOD!  HOW CAN YOU HONOR GOD, IF YOU DESTROY HIS CREATION, YOU SO CALLED CHRISTIANS!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I support the people of WV! Those fighting against old KING Coal! I support all those who have lost a loved one, or gotten cancer, or lost a child due to the pollution that COAL has brought to these communities.  I support those elders who have to sweep the coal dust from their front porches everyday, those whose land has washed away, who have lost their homes to COAL!   I support those who prefer wind or solar energy! And no, I won&#8217;t suffer or complain without electricity! We should be a little uncomfortable, it helps us remember that we are humans! NOT GOD!  HOW CAN YOU HONOR GOD, IF YOU DESTROY HIS CREATION, YOU SO CALLED CHRISTIANS!</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Badenoch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Badenoch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 05:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article about MTR from WestVirginia&#039;s own: 

http://www.wvablue.com/diary/4681/responsibly-ending-mountain-top-removal

Points out that even in WV, public opinion is about 66% against MTR.  The only people truly for MTR are the greed-sick executives who take home the profit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article about MTR from WestVirginia&#8217;s own: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.wvablue.com/diary/4681/responsibly-ending-mountain-top-removal" rel="nofollow">http://www.wvablue.com/diary/4681/responsibly-ending-mountain-top-removal</a></p>
<p>Points out that even in WV, public opinion is about 66% against MTR.  The only people truly for MTR are the greed-sick executives who take home the profit.</p>
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		<title>By: Devin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Devin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 02:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Renewables and Energy Efficiency = Progress
Coal, Oil and other Fossil Fuels = Regress (decline)

Adam Smith, the “Father of Economics,” said: “The progressive state is in reality the cheerful and the hearty state to all the different orders of the society; the stationary is dull; the declining melancholy.”

Come to the coalfields, and see which of these “states,” after over 150 years of timber, natural gas and coal extraction, describes the region the best. I’m gonna go with melancholy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Renewables and Energy Efficiency = Progress<br />
Coal, Oil and other Fossil Fuels = Regress (decline)</p>
<p>Adam Smith, the “Father of Economics,” said: “The progressive state is in reality the cheerful and the hearty state to all the different orders of the society; the stationary is dull; the declining melancholy.”</p>
<p>Come to the coalfields, and see which of these “states,” after over 150 years of timber, natural gas and coal extraction, describes the region the best. I’m gonna go with melancholy.</p>
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