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	<title>Comments on: Charlotte banner tells Bank of America: stop funding coal!</title>
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		<title>By: Jade Queen</title>
		<link>http://understory.ran.org/2007/10/23/charlotte-banner-tells-bank-of-america-stop-funding-coal/comment-page-2/#comment-278343</link>
		<dc:creator>Jade Queen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S.  I found this site by Googling hollergirl hillbillies to find hollergirl&#039;s comments there on a cabinet choice that on the surface appears to be a disaster waiting to happen.  I commend hollergirl&#039;s comments there, I encourage people here to link over to truthout.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S.  I found this site by Googling hollergirl hillbillies to find hollergirl&#8217;s comments there on a cabinet choice that on the surface appears to be a disaster waiting to happen.  I commend hollergirl&#8217;s comments there, I encourage people here to link over to truthout.</p>
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		<title>By: Jade Queen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jade Queen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is another design challenge.  Once the banks come to understand the changes they need to make, they will need to help finance clean-up.  Some interesting work on cleaning with fungi and plants exist.  Some southern rivers are polluted with substances that create unbelievably bizarre and ugly health challenges.  People on the forefront of this need to submit business plans for clean-up.  As for fueling the South, has anyone ever heard of kudzu?  They poison it too now, believe it or not.  Some politician&#039;s uncle&#039;s brother works for a big chemical company wanting a contract.  Meanwhile, an entertaining post you can Google for is how to save NASCAR with kudzu.  The roots can be made into alcohol fuel, the tops, when they die down from the cold, can be made into baskets, big baskets, and the residue taken down to burn in fireplaces, because otherwise it sometimes burns up on top of the junk cars and other things it has swallowed.  We can make cleaner, better lives if we exercise the brains, ingenuity, and hard work Americans used to be famous for, before we became famous for the biggest incarceration rate on the planet.  Cheers to everyone who posted.  We need to cross over many boundaries to start working together for a better relationship of humans to earth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is another design challenge.  Once the banks come to understand the changes they need to make, they will need to help finance clean-up.  Some interesting work on cleaning with fungi and plants exist.  Some southern rivers are polluted with substances that create unbelievably bizarre and ugly health challenges.  People on the forefront of this need to submit business plans for clean-up.  As for fueling the South, has anyone ever heard of kudzu?  They poison it too now, believe it or not.  Some politician&#8217;s uncle&#8217;s brother works for a big chemical company wanting a contract.  Meanwhile, an entertaining post you can Google for is how to save NASCAR with kudzu.  The roots can be made into alcohol fuel, the tops, when they die down from the cold, can be made into baskets, big baskets, and the residue taken down to burn in fireplaces, because otherwise it sometimes burns up on top of the junk cars and other things it has swallowed.  We can make cleaner, better lives if we exercise the brains, ingenuity, and hard work Americans used to be famous for, before we became famous for the biggest incarceration rate on the planet.  Cheers to everyone who posted.  We need to cross over many boundaries to start working together for a better relationship of humans to earth.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 18:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Calling all MBAs, lawyers, accountants: here&#039;s your design problem

Let&#039;s get the banks to divest from coal. There must be a way.

The entire scientific community (including NOAA, NASA, and the US delegate to the IPCC) agree that global warming is real, it is human caused, and something must be done in the next 10 years to avoid huge catastrophes - flooded cities, major droughts etc. This was widely known 20 years ago. We also know that the reserves of oil will run out long before we ever reach a limit with coal.
Coal is the problem. Stop coal and we have a chance. Stop the loans that fund coal-mining.
Now for something positive.

Clean energy is a design problem. So is divesting from coal.
Groups like RAN have spanked the banks. Now let&#039;s show that there is a solution. All of you bankers, MBAs, investment whiz kids, lawyers: here is your challenge. Suppose you work for a large bank with major investments in coal mining and coal-fired plants. The bank wants to completely divest from coal, legally and with no loss in overall profit, within 6 months. There is your challenge. Go.

The word is out. Now let&#039;s talk about the solution. Don&#039;t tell me its impossible to divest from business commitments that quickly. When the heat was on, companies around the world found a way to divest from Apartheid South Africa, quickly, legally, profitably. We did it then, we can do it now.
All you business whiz kids out there - write a step by step process for how Bank of America and others can divest completely from coal in 6 months. 

Be famous. Be the banker that stopped coal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Calling all MBAs, lawyers, accountants: here&#8217;s your design problem</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s get the banks to divest from coal. There must be a way.</p>
<p>The entire scientific community (including NOAA, NASA, and the US delegate to the IPCC) agree that global warming is real, it is human caused, and something must be done in the next 10 years to avoid huge catastrophes &#8211; flooded cities, major droughts etc. This was widely known 20 years ago. We also know that the reserves of oil will run out long before we ever reach a limit with coal.<br />
Coal is the problem. Stop coal and we have a chance. Stop the loans that fund coal-mining.<br />
Now for something positive.</p>
<p>Clean energy is a design problem. So is divesting from coal.<br />
Groups like RAN have spanked the banks. Now let&#8217;s show that there is a solution. All of you bankers, MBAs, investment whiz kids, lawyers: here is your challenge. Suppose you work for a large bank with major investments in coal mining and coal-fired plants. The bank wants to completely divest from coal, legally and with no loss in overall profit, within 6 months. There is your challenge. Go.</p>
<p>The word is out. Now let&#8217;s talk about the solution. Don&#8217;t tell me its impossible to divest from business commitments that quickly. When the heat was on, companies around the world found a way to divest from Apartheid South Africa, quickly, legally, profitably. We did it then, we can do it now.<br />
All you business whiz kids out there &#8211; write a step by step process for how Bank of America and others can divest completely from coal in 6 months. </p>
<p>Be famous. Be the banker that stopped coal.</p>
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		<title>By: Japhet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Japhet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 04:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All of those responders who think this issue will garner no attention or energy to change the way we finance coal: we&#039;ve got enough energy simply from you repeatedly coming back here to continue the conversation. Thanks for that! 

Civil disobedience has a long history my friends...including giving freedom to this country (also an act against a corporation -- Boston Tea Party), the right to vote for women and civil rights...all of you complaining about &quot;inconviences&quot; sound just like the folks who spit on Martin Luther King, kicked the iron-jawed angels and stood silent while this country fought for independence. Take your place amongst democracy&#039;s wallflowers and thanks for keeping the status quo as stale as ever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of those responders who think this issue will garner no attention or energy to change the way we finance coal: we&#8217;ve got enough energy simply from you repeatedly coming back here to continue the conversation. Thanks for that! </p>
<p>Civil disobedience has a long history my friends&#8230;including giving freedom to this country (also an act against a corporation &#8212; Boston Tea Party), the right to vote for women and civil rights&#8230;all of you complaining about &#8220;inconviences&#8221; sound just like the folks who spit on Martin Luther King, kicked the iron-jawed angels and stood silent while this country fought for independence. Take your place amongst democracy&#8217;s wallflowers and thanks for keeping the status quo as stale as ever.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 21:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post Oso. You must have spent hours to get it just right. Apparently, most of you who live in &amp; around Charlotte missed this piece in the Observer on Saturday, October, 27:                                                
                                                      Demand for coal destroys mountaintops
HARVARD AYERS
                                                        This week&#039;s protest of Charlotte-based Bank of America&#039;s practice of financing companies who strip mine coal in West Virginia, Kentucky and Virginia raised concerns that should be of interest to all North Carolinians. The Rainforest Action Network hung a huge banner off a crane in front of the Bank of America building that dominates the skyline of downtown Charlotte. The sign read, &quot;Financing Coal, Killing Communities.&quot;
Many of us are not aware of all the mining practices of coal giants such as Arch Coal and Massey Energy. Besides the familiar underground mining, they blow up mountains in Appalachia to get down to the coal, and push the waste and debris into surrounding valleys.

Known appropriately as mountaintop removal, this practice has leveled more than 470 Appalachian mountains and buried or polluted thousands of miles of mountain streams -- streams at the headwaters of the drinking water supply of millions of Americans. Blasting and flooding from mountaintop removal are also devastating families and communities in the mountains and leaving the economy of central Appalachia in shambles.

Robert F. Kennedy Jr., perhaps the most prominent environmentalist of our time, recently stated in a speech in Blowing Rock, &quot;Mountaintop removal is the biggest environmental battle of our hemisphere. You know, you can restore the Hudson River in perhaps a hundred years. But you will never, never, get these mountains back. This is truly a crime against every human being in the world.&quot;

Duke wants huge new plant

Another prominent corporation in Charlotte, Duke Energy, is closely connected to Kennedy&#039;s concerns. Duke is trying to gain state approval for a huge coal-fired power plant just upwind from Charlotte. The smaller, existing plants at this Cliffside site use mostly mountaintop removal coal from West Virginia and surrounding states, and the much larger unit, if approved, is expected to burn coal from the same region. In fact, according to the Boone-based environmental organization Appalachian Voices, Duke Energy is one of our nation&#039;s three biggest users of mountaintop removal coal.Not only would increased demand for coal from the expanded Cliffside plant lead directly to the destruction of more beautiful and irreplaceable Appalachian mountains and communities, it would add millions of tons of global warming gases and other pollutants to our atmosphere. Congressional efforts to curb global warming are very likely to succeed in what promises to be a much more environmentally concerned Congress. So the Duke Energy effort to gain approval for the Cliffside coal plant may be seen as a race against time to get what may well be one of the last of the dirty coal plants in under the wire.

When Congress does finally act to regulate global warming gases, those regulations will be costly for states like North Carolina that get most of their electricity from dirty coal plants. With an astronomical 61 percent of our electricity already generated by burning coal, North Carolinians have a lot to lose by putting even more of our energy &quot;eggs&quot; in the coal &quot;basket.&quot;

Rhetoric misleading

Another connection exists between Bank of America and Duke Energy: both claim to be responsible corporate citizens who are concerned about their environmental footprint. Bank of America claims to be investing heavily in technologies that will reduce global warming. However, in 2006 the company spent $100 on dirty energy projects for every dollar it spent on clean energy, according to a white paper by the Rainforest Action Network.

The environmental rhetoric of Duke CEO Jim Rogers is just as misleading: Rogers asserted in a recent editorial in The New York Times that the best power plant is the one you don&#039;t have to build. But a recent study by the N.C. Utilities Commission demonstrated unequivocally that conservation, efficiency and renewables could meet North Carolina&#039;s projected energy demand at a comparable cost to what Duke plans to spend building the Cliffside coal plant.

The motto of North Carolina is Esse Quam Videri -- &quot;To be, rather than to seem.&quot; But what North Carolina-based companies Duke Energy and Bank of America may have most in common is how far they are from living up to this standard.
                                                     Harvard Ayers is professor emeritus of anthropology at Appalachian State University and a board member of Appalachian Voices, www.appvoices.org. Write him at harvard@boone.net.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Oso. You must have spent hours to get it just right. Apparently, most of you who live in &amp; around Charlotte missed this piece in the Observer on Saturday, October, 27:<br />
                                                      Demand for coal destroys mountaintops<br />
HARVARD AYERS<br />
                                                        This week&#8217;s protest of Charlotte-based Bank of America&#8217;s practice of financing companies who strip mine coal in West Virginia, Kentucky and Virginia raised concerns that should be of interest to all North Carolinians. The Rainforest Action Network hung a huge banner off a crane in front of the Bank of America building that dominates the skyline of downtown Charlotte. The sign read, &#8220;Financing Coal, Killing Communities.&#8221;<br />
Many of us are not aware of all the mining practices of coal giants such as Arch Coal and Massey Energy. Besides the familiar underground mining, they blow up mountains in Appalachia to get down to the coal, and push the waste and debris into surrounding valleys.</p>
<p>Known appropriately as mountaintop removal, this practice has leveled more than 470 Appalachian mountains and buried or polluted thousands of miles of mountain streams &#8212; streams at the headwaters of the drinking water supply of millions of Americans. Blasting and flooding from mountaintop removal are also devastating families and communities in the mountains and leaving the economy of central Appalachia in shambles.</p>
<p>Robert F. Kennedy Jr., perhaps the most prominent environmentalist of our time, recently stated in a speech in Blowing Rock, &#8220;Mountaintop removal is the biggest environmental battle of our hemisphere. You know, you can restore the Hudson River in perhaps a hundred years. But you will never, never, get these mountains back. This is truly a crime against every human being in the world.&#8221;</p>
<p>Duke wants huge new plant</p>
<p>Another prominent corporation in Charlotte, Duke Energy, is closely connected to Kennedy&#8217;s concerns. Duke is trying to gain state approval for a huge coal-fired power plant just upwind from Charlotte. The smaller, existing plants at this Cliffside site use mostly mountaintop removal coal from West Virginia and surrounding states, and the much larger unit, if approved, is expected to burn coal from the same region. In fact, according to the Boone-based environmental organization Appalachian Voices, Duke Energy is one of our nation&#8217;s three biggest users of mountaintop removal coal.Not only would increased demand for coal from the expanded Cliffside plant lead directly to the destruction of more beautiful and irreplaceable Appalachian mountains and communities, it would add millions of tons of global warming gases and other pollutants to our atmosphere. Congressional efforts to curb global warming are very likely to succeed in what promises to be a much more environmentally concerned Congress. So the Duke Energy effort to gain approval for the Cliffside coal plant may be seen as a race against time to get what may well be one of the last of the dirty coal plants in under the wire.</p>
<p>When Congress does finally act to regulate global warming gases, those regulations will be costly for states like North Carolina that get most of their electricity from dirty coal plants. With an astronomical 61 percent of our electricity already generated by burning coal, North Carolinians have a lot to lose by putting even more of our energy &#8220;eggs&#8221; in the coal &#8220;basket.&#8221;</p>
<p>Rhetoric misleading</p>
<p>Another connection exists between Bank of America and Duke Energy: both claim to be responsible corporate citizens who are concerned about their environmental footprint. Bank of America claims to be investing heavily in technologies that will reduce global warming. However, in 2006 the company spent $100 on dirty energy projects for every dollar it spent on clean energy, according to a white paper by the Rainforest Action Network.</p>
<p>The environmental rhetoric of Duke CEO Jim Rogers is just as misleading: Rogers asserted in a recent editorial in The New York Times that the best power plant is the one you don&#8217;t have to build. But a recent study by the N.C. Utilities Commission demonstrated unequivocally that conservation, efficiency and renewables could meet North Carolina&#8217;s projected energy demand at a comparable cost to what Duke plans to spend building the Cliffside coal plant.</p>
<p>The motto of North Carolina is Esse Quam Videri &#8212; &#8220;To be, rather than to seem.&#8221; But what North Carolina-based companies Duke Energy and Bank of America may have most in common is how far they are from living up to this standard.<br />
                                                     Harvard Ayers is professor emeritus of anthropology at Appalachian State University and a board member of Appalachian Voices, <a href="http://www.appvoices.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.appvoices.org</a>. Write him at <a href="mailto:harvard@boone.net">harvard@boone.net</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Oso</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 22:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys suck. Get a real job instead of doing nothing with your lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys suck. Get a real job instead of doing nothing with your lives.</p>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 16:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that everyone has had a little time to cool off, it&#039;s now Nov. 7th, take a deep breath and think about this:
&quot;Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has.&quot; Margaret Mead
To those who don&#039;t like that people act their beliefs, please, just go to your rooms and reflect on your sorry selves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that everyone has had a little time to cool off, it&#8217;s now Nov. 7th, take a deep breath and think about this:<br />
&#8220;Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has.&#8221; Margaret Mead<br />
To those who don&#8217;t like that people act their beliefs, please, just go to your rooms and reflect on your sorry selves.</p>
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		<title>By: The Understory &#187; The role of Civil Disobedience in the Climate Movement.</title>
		<link>http://understory.ran.org/2007/10/23/charlotte-banner-tells-bank-of-america-stop-funding-coal/comment-page-2/#comment-137390</link>
		<dc:creator>The Understory &#187; The role of Civil Disobedience in the Climate Movement.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 01:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Our goals of this action were many, and we feel very successful. The banking center of downtown Charlotte woke up to see the truths behind Bank of America’s investment polices; that they are accelerating global warming, polluting our air, and destroying lives and communities across the globe. As executives and employees started their work day at Bank of America’s headquarters -the banner sent a powerful message to America’s largest retail bank that being one of the top financiers of coal and climate change is unacceptable business, and not something they can hide from their customers. Beyond the direct statements to thousands of Charlotte residents and bank employees (who were actually a receptive crowd on the ground), we also received excellent media coverage - including the top story on most regional TV news stations. And good lord - did you see the controversy earlier on the RAN blog? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Our goals of this action were many, and we feel very successful. The banking center of downtown Charlotte woke up to see the truths behind Bank of America’s investment polices; that they are accelerating global warming, polluting our air, and destroying lives and communities across the globe. As executives and employees started their work day at Bank of America’s headquarters -the banner sent a powerful message to America’s largest retail bank that being one of the top financiers of coal and climate change is unacceptable business, and not something they can hide from their customers. Beyond the direct statements to thousands of Charlotte residents and bank employees (who were actually a receptive crowd on the ground), we also received excellent media coverage &#8211; including the top story on most regional TV news stations. And good lord &#8211; did you see the controversy earlier on the RAN blog? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 17:51:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for taking action against mountaintop removal and global warming. To the crane operator- I definitely think there&#039;s a link between predatory mortgages and mountaintop removal-- short term thinking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for taking action against mountaintop removal and global warming. To the crane operator- I definitely think there&#8217;s a link between predatory mortgages and mountaintop removal&#8211; short term thinking.</p>
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		<title>By: The Role of Civil Disobedience in the Climate Movement. &#171; It&#8217;s Getting Hot In Here</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Role of Civil Disobedience in the Climate Movement. &#171; It&#8217;s Getting Hot In Here</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 01:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Our goals of this action were many, and we feel very successful. The banking center of downtown Charlotte woke up to see the truths behind Bank of America&#8217;s investment polices; that they are accelerating global warming, polluting our air, and destroying lives and communities across the globe. As executives and employees started their work day at Bank of America&#8217;s headquarters -the banner sent a powerful message to America’s largest retail bank that being one of the top financiers of coal and climate change is unacceptable business, and not something they can hide from their customers. Beyond the direct statements to thousands of Charlotte residents and bank employees (who were actually a receptive crowd on the ground), we also received excellent media coverage - including the top story on most regional TV news stations. And good lord - did you see the controversy on RAN&#8217;s blog? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Our goals of this action were many, and we feel very successful. The banking center of downtown Charlotte woke up to see the truths behind Bank of America&#8217;s investment polices; that they are accelerating global warming, polluting our air, and destroying lives and communities across the globe. As executives and employees started their work day at Bank of America&#8217;s headquarters -the banner sent a powerful message to America’s largest retail bank that being one of the top financiers of coal and climate change is unacceptable business, and not something they can hide from their customers. Beyond the direct statements to thousands of Charlotte residents and bank employees (who were actually a receptive crowd on the ground), we also received excellent media coverage &#8211; including the top story on most regional TV news stations. And good lord &#8211; did you see the controversy on RAN&#8217;s blog? [...]</p>
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