Comments on: Supporting Berkeley Tree-Sitters! http://understory.ran.org/2006/12/18/saving-berkeleys-oaks/ The Understory is the official blog of Rainforest Action Network. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 01:33:44 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: William http://understory.ran.org/2006/12/18/saving-berkeleys-oaks/comment-page-1/#comment-239154 William Mon, 08 Sep 2008 16:52:02 +0000 http://understory.ran.org/2006/12/18/saving-berkeleys-oaks/#comment-239154 My educational background is that of Resource Management Forestry and Environmental Studies Law and Planning. I support the protection of the trees. I do not practice forestry since sustainable forestry as we are taught is not a goal of our current management practices. Global Warming gives us the idea that harvesting trees can impact global warming. Since Berkely is supposed to teach Forestry and Environmental Studies for the State of California I would not hold this States view of Environmental issues very high or consider suspect. Where is the Governor (Head of State University System) now? My educational background is that of Resource Management Forestry and Environmental Studies Law and Planning. I support the protection of the trees. I do not practice forestry since sustainable forestry as we are taught is not a goal of our current management practices. Global Warming gives us the idea that harvesting trees can impact global warming. Since Berkely is supposed to teach Forestry and Environmental Studies for the State of California I would not hold this States view of Environmental issues very high or consider suspect. Where is the Governor (Head of State University System) now?

]]> By: Connee Robertson http://understory.ran.org/2006/12/18/saving-berkeleys-oaks/comment-page-1/#comment-211673 Connee Robertson Thu, 19 Jun 2008 12:14:28 +0000 http://understory.ran.org/2006/12/18/saving-berkeleys-oaks/#comment-211673 Thanks to the people who are trying to save the oaks. They are the lungs of our world and a rich ecosystem.I fully support what you are doing to save the trees! There are many who are with you...I wish I could join you in the canopy, my friends! Do not give up never, never, never!These matters are of utmost importance.The trees give us so much...if anyone does not understand this, you do not understand much. They are worth more than a million dollars each to our environment. Bless you that are brave enough to actually try to DO something and believe in the beauty of NATURE! Thanks to the people who are trying to save the oaks. They are the lungs of our world and a rich ecosystem.I fully support what you are doing to save the trees! There are many who are with you…I wish I could join you in the canopy, my friends! Do not give up never, never, never!These matters are of utmost importance.The trees give us so much…if anyone does not understand this, you do not understand much. They are worth more than a million dollars each to our environment. Bless you that are brave enough to actually try to DO something and believe in the beauty of NATURE!

]]> By: Oski http://understory.ran.org/2006/12/18/saving-berkeleys-oaks/comment-page-1/#comment-185044 Oski Tue, 08 Apr 2008 21:17:11 +0000 http://understory.ran.org/2006/12/18/saving-berkeleys-oaks/#comment-185044 This is the truth, plain and simple: The oak grove is a landscaping project planted during the construction of memorial stadium in the twenties. It is university property, not an ancient oak grove/burial ground as the idiotic hippy tree huggers claim. I would be up the with them if the tree sitters were trying to save a RAINFOREST, not a grove of ugly oaks by a FOOTBALL STADIUM. The new athletic facility and the seperate stadium renovation will be a boon to recruiting, finally thrusting Cal into that ring of yearly championship contenders that they should have been all along. Berkeley needs the unity that a very good sports team can provide, and the stadium will be beautiful along with an excellent sports and academic facility for the student athletes to change (the girls softball team changes in their cars), work out, and study. Tree sitters: I support saving nature, and I support helping the eco-system and environment. I am a Berkeley leftist just like you are. But saving some trees by a huge cement football stadium that aren't old by any means and arent part of an eco-system is not helping the environment, it is just creating more division and conflict in Berkeley. Get out of the trees and I will pay for a flight to the Amazon where there are cutting down rainforests for wood. This is the truth, plain and simple: The oak grove is a landscaping project planted during the construction of memorial stadium in the twenties. It is university property, not an ancient oak grove/burial ground as the idiotic hippy tree huggers claim. I would be up the with them if the tree sitters were trying to save a RAINFOREST, not a grove of ugly oaks by a FOOTBALL STADIUM. The new athletic facility and the seperate stadium renovation will be a boon to recruiting, finally thrusting Cal into that ring of yearly championship contenders that they should have been all along. Berkeley needs the unity that a very good sports team can provide, and the stadium will be beautiful along with an excellent sports and academic facility for the student athletes to change (the girls softball team changes in their cars), work out, and study. Tree sitters: I support saving nature, and I support helping the eco-system and environment. I am a Berkeley leftist just like you are. But saving some trees by a huge cement football stadium that aren’t old by any means and arent part of an eco-system is not helping the environment, it is just creating more division and conflict in Berkeley. Get out of the trees and I will pay for a flight to the Amazon where there are cutting down rainforests for wood.

]]> By: Aly Ebrahimzadeh, Esq. http://understory.ran.org/2006/12/18/saving-berkeleys-oaks/comment-page-1/#comment-166781 Aly Ebrahimzadeh, Esq. Thu, 07 Feb 2008 06:33:56 +0000 http://understory.ran.org/2006/12/18/saving-berkeleys-oaks/#comment-166781 I am a Social Justice attorney who fully supports Environmental Activism, Civil Demonstrations, Civil Rights and other forms of Social Protest, and I would LOVE to represent any tree sitters or other environmental activists who find their Civil Rights being infringed by the State, especially by Police Misconduct or Brutality, or who are in need of sharp Criminal Defense. I have sliding-scale rates as low as $50 per hour, and sometimes do Pro Bono work. I am a Director on the Board of the San Francisco chapter of the National Lawyer's Guild, a UC Hastings graduate, and I have excellent experience in Non Profit Environmental and Plaintiff-Side Litigation and Criminal Defense. My webpage is www.AlyEsquire.Blogspot.com. My name is Aly Ebrahimzadeh, Esq.. My email is AlyEsquire@Gmail.com. My cell phone is 510.910.3198. I have multiple offices around the Bay Area, and I speak fluent Spanish, French, Italian, and Farsi, and basic German. Give me a call if you are a tree-sitter or other activist in need of top-notch, ethical, and supportive legal representation in a civil or criminal matter. I fully support the Rainforest Action Network, the work of Earth First and other radical environmental and animal rights organizations, and I am very eager to work with others with similar feelings. An attorney friend of mine is presently working with the Tree Sitters as their attorney, and I would also love to take part in such litigation, or in litigation representing any peace and justice activist in any matter. Big Shout-Out to the Brothers and Sisters swinging in Trees, Aly Ebrahimzadeh, Esq. Attorney-Activist www.AlyEsquire.Blogspot.com AlyEsquire@Gmail.com Cell: 510.910.3198 I am a Social Justice attorney who fully supports Environmental Activism, Civil Demonstrations, Civil Rights and other forms of Social Protest, and I would LOVE to represent any tree sitters or other environmental activists who find their Civil Rights being infringed by the State, especially by Police Misconduct or Brutality, or who are in need of sharp Criminal Defense.

I have sliding-scale rates as low as $50 per hour, and sometimes do Pro Bono work. I am a Director on the Board of the San Francisco chapter of the National Lawyer’s Guild, a UC Hastings graduate, and I have excellent experience in Non Profit Environmental and Plaintiff-Side Litigation and Criminal Defense.

My webpage is http://www.AlyEsquire.Blogspot.com. My name is Aly Ebrahimzadeh, Esq.. My email is AlyEsquire@Gmail.com. My cell phone is 510.910.3198. I have multiple offices around the Bay Area, and I speak fluent Spanish, French, Italian, and Farsi, and basic German.

Give me a call if you are a tree-sitter or other activist in need of top-notch, ethical, and supportive legal representation in a civil or criminal matter.

I fully support the Rainforest Action Network, the work of Earth First and other radical environmental and animal rights organizations, and I am very eager to work with others with similar feelings.

An attorney friend of mine is presently working with the Tree Sitters as their attorney, and I would also love to take part in such litigation, or in litigation representing any peace and justice activist in any matter.

Big Shout-Out to the Brothers and Sisters swinging in Trees,

Aly Ebrahimzadeh, Esq.
Attorney-Activist

http://www.AlyEsquire.Blogspot.com
AlyEsquire@Gmail.com
Cell: 510.910.3198

]]> By: Willie http://understory.ran.org/2006/12/18/saving-berkeleys-oaks/comment-page-1/#comment-150616 Willie Wed, 19 Dec 2007 20:32:46 +0000 http://understory.ran.org/2006/12/18/saving-berkeleys-oaks/#comment-150616 It is telling that no one has explained why we are better off with a training facility than an oak grove. You want a place to work out? Try the Ricky Henderson workout (100 puchups and 200 situps a day)which you can do in the grove of oaks if you like. Shouldn't the people wanting to cut down trees that are clearly protected by Berkeley law be required to show how this action will benefit the citizens of Berkeley? And what about the logic of building on top of the Hayward fault? Maybe the treesitters are actually saving a bunch of clueless jocks from being crushed in the big one. It is telling that no one has explained why we are better off with a training facility than an oak grove. You want a place to work out? Try the Ricky Henderson workout (100 puchups and 200 situps a day)which you can do in the grove of oaks if you like.

Shouldn’t the people wanting to cut down trees that are clearly protected by Berkeley law be required to show how this action will benefit the citizens of Berkeley? And what about the logic of building on top of the Hayward fault? Maybe the treesitters are actually saving a bunch of clueless jocks from being crushed in the big one.

]]> By: Eric Distad http://understory.ran.org/2006/12/18/saving-berkeleys-oaks/comment-page-1/#comment-140308 Eric Distad Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:33:36 +0000 http://understory.ran.org/2006/12/18/saving-berkeleys-oaks/#comment-140308 Yes... the Ecosystem would be destroyed by removing the trees. But aren't the treesitters TAMPERING with that ecosystem already??? Remove the trees, plant thrice the trees elsewhere and recreate a new and larger ecosystem. Yes… the Ecosystem would be destroyed by removing the trees. But aren’t the treesitters TAMPERING with that ecosystem already??? Remove the trees, plant thrice the trees elsewhere and recreate a new and larger ecosystem.

]]> By: Richard C. Sipan http://understory.ran.org/2006/12/18/saving-berkeleys-oaks/comment-page-1/#comment-138646 Richard C. Sipan Wed, 07 Nov 2007 20:49:45 +0000 http://understory.ran.org/2006/12/18/saving-berkeleys-oaks/#comment-138646 Speaking as a Ronald Reagan-loving Republican (and U.C. Berkeley alumnus, 1982) the tree-sitters are heroes. This is passive resistance in the tradition of Gandhi. Oh, the oaks are only 80 years old? So what! I enjoy Cal football, but I also believe in preservation of the natural environment. This is an issue where the environmentalists and the Tightwad Hills types come together (I've never watched a game from Tightwad Hill, but future generations ought to have that opportunity). Power to the people! Speaking as a Ronald Reagan-loving Republican (and U.C. Berkeley alumnus, 1982) the tree-sitters are heroes. This is passive resistance in the tradition of Gandhi. Oh, the oaks are only 80 years old? So what! I enjoy Cal football, but I also believe in preservation of the natural environment. This is an issue where the environmentalists and the Tightwad Hills types come together (I’ve never watched a game from Tightwad Hill, but future generations ought to have that opportunity). Power to the people!

]]> By: tree jonny http://understory.ran.org/2006/12/18/saving-berkeleys-oaks/comment-page-1/#comment-138466 tree jonny Tue, 06 Nov 2007 22:58:00 +0000 http://understory.ran.org/2006/12/18/saving-berkeleys-oaks/#comment-138466 sad to see noone seems to care about these old-growth trees, in OAKland of all places.. but the developer is gonna get away with chopping them down to make condos no doubt. wish some tree-defenders would come to their aid: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=oakland+ave+monte+vista&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=46.27475,74.882813&ie=UTF8&om=1&layer=c&cbll=37.821718,-122.248612&cbp=1,365.16775742896845,,0,-2.2050533283761897&ll=37.826091,-122.248371&spn=0.009339,0.021651&z=16 sad to see noone seems to care about these old-growth trees, in OAKland of all places.. but the developer is gonna get away with chopping them down to make condos no doubt. wish some tree-defenders would come to their aid:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=oakland+ave+monte+vista&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=46.27475,74.882813&ie=UTF8&om=1&layer=c&cbll=37.821718,-122.248612&cbp=1,365.16775742896845,,0,-2.2050533283761897&ll=37.826091,-122.248371&spn=0.009339,0.021651&z=16

]]> By: Adam Grant http://understory.ran.org/2006/12/18/saving-berkeleys-oaks/comment-page-1/#comment-137125 Adam Grant Wed, 31 Oct 2007 21:36:36 +0000 http://understory.ran.org/2006/12/18/saving-berkeleys-oaks/#comment-137125 Dude, treesitting is awesome as long as the pot gets delivered on time dude. Hell no we wont ... dude, what what I saying dude? Dude, treesitting is awesome as long as the pot gets delivered on time dude. Hell no we wont … dude, what what I saying dude?

]]> By: lauren http://understory.ran.org/2006/12/18/saving-berkeleys-oaks/comment-page-1/#comment-127174 lauren Thu, 27 Sep 2007 04:12:02 +0000 http://understory.ran.org/2006/12/18/saving-berkeleys-oaks/#comment-127174 At least they're trying. Instead of just complaining about how trivial or hypocritical this cause is and how these people should go make a difference where it's needed, how about you shut up. If you want a change, you go make it. These people are making a difference where they can. No matter how small or insignificant you think it may be, they're doing much more than you who's complaining. If this does bring attention to the cause, more power to them. At least they’re trying. Instead of just complaining about how trivial or hypocritical this cause is and how these people should go make a difference where it’s needed, how about you shut up. If you want a change, you go make it. These people are making a difference where they can. No matter how small or insignificant you think it may be, they’re doing much more than you who’s complaining.
If this does bring attention to the cause, more power to them.

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