Comments on: Lyptus? http://understory.ran.org/2006/10/12/lyptus/ The Understory is the official blog of Rainforest Action Network. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 01:33:44 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: moso bamboo lover http://understory.ran.org/2006/10/12/lyptus/comment-page-1/#comment-384018 moso bamboo lover Fri, 13 Nov 2009 01:21:51 +0000 http://understory.ran.org/2006/10/12/lyptus/#comment-384018 You'r a savvy blogger, I look forward to learning from you on this topic. You’r a savvy blogger, I look forward to learning from you on this topic.

]]> By: Confuzzled Consumer http://understory.ran.org/2006/10/12/lyptus/comment-page-1/#comment-360538 Confuzzled Consumer Thu, 09 Jul 2009 07:06:04 +0000 http://understory.ran.org/2006/10/12/lyptus/#comment-360538 I assume then that the Cerflor certification program is meaningless, and the European PEFC endorsement likewise? The problem for us consumers is that there isn't a readily available clearinghouse for all the information substantiating the competing claims of "green" vs "green-washing." If we simply stopped purchasing products from any companies whose hands are perhaps not perfectly "green," we'd have to stop buying altogether! What would really help us make these decisions in a more responsible way would be to provide us with all the data: cost per ton to ship, method of shipping, the *whole* truth about the land where the raw materials are grown/mined/harvested, and so on. To be honest, criticizing Lyptus and accusing Weyerhauser of more or less lying and greenwashing it, when you front for a bamboo supplier, ... well. Let's just say your hands ain't looking too clean either. I assume then that the Cerflor certification program is meaningless, and the European PEFC endorsement likewise? The problem for us consumers is that there isn’t a readily available clearinghouse for all the information substantiating the competing claims of “green” vs “green-washing.” If we simply stopped purchasing products from any companies whose hands are perhaps not perfectly “green,” we’d have to stop buying altogether! What would really help us make these decisions in a more responsible way would be to provide us with all the data: cost per ton to ship, method of shipping, the *whole* truth about the land where the raw materials are grown/mined/harvested, and so on. To be honest, criticizing Lyptus and accusing Weyerhauser of more or less lying and greenwashing it, when you front for a bamboo supplier, … well. Let’s just say your hands ain’t looking too clean either.

]]> By: George http://understory.ran.org/2006/10/12/lyptus/comment-page-1/#comment-316807 George Fri, 20 Mar 2009 00:23:25 +0000 http://understory.ran.org/2006/10/12/lyptus/#comment-316807 Shipping a ton by truck overland takes 4 times the energy of shipping a ton by boat across the ocean. Where I live in Seattle, it is actually less carbon impact to get bamboo by boat from Shanghai than pine from Savannah by truck. Also, keep in mind that eucalyptus grows so fast because it sucks all the nutrients from the soil, much like tobacco does. We would never be able to reforest the planet with eucalyptus, not more than once anyway, because the soil would be exhausted. There is no free lunch, even for tree growth. Shipping a ton by truck overland takes 4 times the energy of shipping a ton by boat across the ocean. Where I live in Seattle, it is actually less carbon impact to get bamboo by boat from Shanghai than pine from Savannah by truck.

Also, keep in mind that eucalyptus grows so fast because it sucks all the nutrients from the soil, much like tobacco does. We would never be able to reforest the planet with eucalyptus, not more than once anyway, because the soil would be exhausted. There is no free lunch, even for tree growth.

]]> By: joe http://understory.ran.org/2006/10/12/lyptus/comment-page-1/#comment-289424 joe Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:25:50 +0000 http://understory.ran.org/2006/10/12/lyptus/#comment-289424 Bamboo?..Talk about a carborn footprint! Shipped all the way from China! Sounds like a lot of fuel to me. Lyptus is an option for anyone considering flooring. Yes , some companies use enviro-glues..but for the most part they do not. The product still must be shipped a long way and that is one HUGE footprint. Bamboo?..Talk about a carborn footprint! Shipped all the way from China! Sounds like a lot of fuel to me. Lyptus is an option for anyone considering flooring. Yes , some companies use enviro-glues..but for the most part they do not. The product still must be shipped a long way and that is one HUGE footprint.

]]> By: mo http://understory.ran.org/2006/10/12/lyptus/comment-page-1/#comment-274088 mo Wed, 10 Dec 2008 14:48:17 +0000 http://understory.ran.org/2006/10/12/lyptus/#comment-274088 the greenest option is something that was grown, harvested, and milled right where you live. no matter how fast lyptus or bamboo grows, it Is not produced here in the US, so you really need to think about how many gallons of fuel that were used to get it here, as well as all the rest of the points which were given already. the greenest option is something that was grown, harvested, and milled right where you live.
no matter how fast lyptus or bamboo grows, it Is not produced here in the US, so you really need to think about how many gallons of fuel that were used to get it here, as well as all the rest of the points which were given already.

]]> By: Jim Erskine http://understory.ran.org/2006/10/12/lyptus/comment-page-1/#comment-171227 Jim Erskine Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:16:21 +0000 http://understory.ran.org/2006/10/12/lyptus/#comment-171227 Daniel, We carry EcoTimber and Bamboo Mountain products which are made with formaldehyde free adhesives. If you are interested give us a call. 828-253-5455 Daniel, We carry EcoTimber and Bamboo Mountain products which are made with formaldehyde free adhesives. If you are interested give us a call. 828-253-5455

]]> By: Hardwood Maniac http://understory.ran.org/2006/10/12/lyptus/comment-page-1/#comment-160893 Hardwood Maniac Sat, 19 Jan 2008 01:38:26 +0000 http://understory.ran.org/2006/10/12/lyptus/#comment-160893 I think the point of Lyptus's sustainability is being missed. Eucalyptus is an extremely fast growing tree. You can literally forest an enormous area quickly with little to no maintenance because of its reproductive qualities. It will grow practically anywhere as well. We could probably use Eucalyptus to reforest the whole planet if needed. I think the point of Lyptus’s sustainability is being missed. Eucalyptus is an extremely fast growing tree. You can literally forest an enormous area quickly with little to no maintenance because of its reproductive qualities. It will grow practically anywhere as well. We could probably use Eucalyptus to reforest the whole planet if needed.

]]> By: amy http://understory.ran.org/2006/10/12/lyptus/comment-page-1/#comment-157530 amy Mon, 07 Jan 2008 19:14:03 +0000 http://understory.ran.org/2006/10/12/lyptus/#comment-157530 Weyerhaeuser states that they don't use all parts of the trees for flooring, cabinetry, or dimentional lumber. Not all parts of the tree are hard enough, so in order to use as much of they tree as possible they supply other industries. Just because a company isn't certified doesn't mean they aren't a good "green" company. It can be difficult talking green when referring to any wood manufacturer or supplier. The good companies will be conscious of the green movement and be true to green as much they are able. As Bob Villa said, "At least they are trying." Weyerhaeuser states that they don’t use all parts of the trees for flooring, cabinetry, or dimentional lumber. Not all parts of the tree are hard enough, so in order to use as much of they tree as possible they supply other industries. Just because a company isn’t certified doesn’t mean they aren’t a good “green” company. It can be difficult talking green when referring to any wood manufacturer or supplier. The good companies will be conscious of the green movement and be true to green as much they are able. As Bob Villa said, “At least they are trying.”

]]> By: Joey Terra http://understory.ran.org/2006/10/12/lyptus/comment-page-1/#comment-148640 Joey Terra Fri, 07 Dec 2007 23:19:34 +0000 http://understory.ran.org/2006/10/12/lyptus/#comment-148640 Lyptus is not a enviromental product and weyerhaeuser is by no means a green company. I would stay away from lyptus and the green washing that comes with this product. Saying that at least thay are trying is a load of B.S. You cant clear cut one section of forest and throw the consumers a green bone like lyptus and say were doing good. Pick companys that only do good. Bamboo is produced by several companies that use non-formaldehyde glues and are low in v.o.c's. Lyptus is not a enviromental product and weyerhaeuser is by no means a green company. I would stay away from lyptus and the green washing that comes with this product. Saying that at least thay are trying is a load of B.S. You cant clear cut one section of forest and throw the consumers a green bone like lyptus and say were doing good. Pick companys that only do good. Bamboo is produced by several companies that use non-formaldehyde glues and are low in v.o.c’s.

]]> By: Tim Allen http://understory.ran.org/2006/10/12/lyptus/comment-page-1/#comment-116677 Tim Allen Wed, 15 Aug 2007 03:29:45 +0000 http://understory.ran.org/2006/10/12/lyptus/#comment-116677 its tool time!! its tool time!!

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