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		<title>By: moso bamboo lover</title>
		<link>http://understory.ran.org/2006/10/12/lyptus/comment-page-1/#comment-384018</link>
		<dc:creator>moso bamboo lover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 01:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;r a savvy blogger, I look forward to learning from you on this topic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;r a savvy blogger, I look forward to learning from you on this topic.</p>
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		<title>By: Confuzzled Consumer</title>
		<link>http://understory.ran.org/2006/10/12/lyptus/comment-page-1/#comment-360538</link>
		<dc:creator>Confuzzled Consumer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 07:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I assume then that the Cerflor certification program is meaningless, and the European PEFC endorsement likewise?  The problem for us consumers is that there isn&#039;t a readily available clearinghouse for all the information substantiating the competing claims of &quot;green&quot; vs &quot;green-washing.&quot;  If we simply stopped purchasing products from any companies whose hands are perhaps not perfectly &quot;green,&quot; we&#039;d have to stop buying altogether!  What would really help us make these decisions in a more responsible way would be to provide us with all the data:  cost per ton to ship, method of shipping, the *whole* truth about the land where the raw materials are grown/mined/harvested, and so on.  To be honest, criticizing Lyptus and accusing Weyerhauser of more or less lying and greenwashing it, when you front for a bamboo supplier, ... well.  Let&#039;s just say your hands ain&#039;t looking too clean either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I assume then that the Cerflor certification program is meaningless, and the European PEFC endorsement likewise?  The problem for us consumers is that there isn&#8217;t a readily available clearinghouse for all the information substantiating the competing claims of &#8220;green&#8221; vs &#8220;green-washing.&#8221;  If we simply stopped purchasing products from any companies whose hands are perhaps not perfectly &#8220;green,&#8221; we&#8217;d have to stop buying altogether!  What would really help us make these decisions in a more responsible way would be to provide us with all the data:  cost per ton to ship, method of shipping, the *whole* truth about the land where the raw materials are grown/mined/harvested, and so on.  To be honest, criticizing Lyptus and accusing Weyerhauser of more or less lying and greenwashing it, when you front for a bamboo supplier, &#8230; well.  Let&#8217;s just say your hands ain&#8217;t looking too clean either.</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
		<link>http://understory.ran.org/2006/10/12/lyptus/comment-page-1/#comment-316807</link>
		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 00:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shipping a ton by truck overland takes 4 times the energy of shipping a ton by boat across the ocean.  Where I live in Seattle, it is actually less carbon impact to get bamboo by boat from Shanghai than pine from Savannah by truck.

Also, keep in mind that eucalyptus grows so fast because it sucks all the nutrients from the soil, much like tobacco does.  We would never be able to reforest the planet with eucalyptus, not more than once anyway, because the soil would be exhausted.  There is no free lunch, even for tree growth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shipping a ton by truck overland takes 4 times the energy of shipping a ton by boat across the ocean.  Where I live in Seattle, it is actually less carbon impact to get bamboo by boat from Shanghai than pine from Savannah by truck.</p>
<p>Also, keep in mind that eucalyptus grows so fast because it sucks all the nutrients from the soil, much like tobacco does.  We would never be able to reforest the planet with eucalyptus, not more than once anyway, because the soil would be exhausted.  There is no free lunch, even for tree growth.</p>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
		<link>http://understory.ran.org/2006/10/12/lyptus/comment-page-1/#comment-289424</link>
		<dc:creator>joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:25:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bamboo?..Talk about a carborn footprint! Shipped all the way from China! Sounds like a lot of fuel to me. Lyptus is an option for anyone considering flooring. Yes , some companies use enviro-glues..but for the most part they do not. The product still must be shipped a long way and that is one HUGE footprint.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bamboo?..Talk about a carborn footprint! Shipped all the way from China! Sounds like a lot of fuel to me. Lyptus is an option for anyone considering flooring. Yes , some companies use enviro-glues..but for the most part they do not. The product still must be shipped a long way and that is one HUGE footprint.</p>
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		<title>By: mo</title>
		<link>http://understory.ran.org/2006/10/12/lyptus/comment-page-1/#comment-274088</link>
		<dc:creator>mo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 14:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the greenest option is something that was grown, harvested, and milled right where you live.
 no matter how fast lyptus or bamboo grows, it Is not produced here in the US, so you really need to think about how many gallons of fuel that were used to get it here, as well as all the rest of the points which were given already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the greenest option is something that was grown, harvested, and milled right where you live.<br />
 no matter how fast lyptus or bamboo grows, it Is not produced here in the US, so you really need to think about how many gallons of fuel that were used to get it here, as well as all the rest of the points which were given already.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Erskine</title>
		<link>http://understory.ran.org/2006/10/12/lyptus/comment-page-1/#comment-171227</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Erskine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daniel, We carry EcoTimber and Bamboo Mountain products which are made with formaldehyde free adhesives. If you are interested give us a call. 828-253-5455</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel, We carry EcoTimber and Bamboo Mountain products which are made with formaldehyde free adhesives. If you are interested give us a call. 828-253-5455</p>
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		<title>By: Hardwood  Maniac</title>
		<link>http://understory.ran.org/2006/10/12/lyptus/comment-page-1/#comment-160893</link>
		<dc:creator>Hardwood  Maniac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 01:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the point of Lyptus&#039;s sustainability is being missed. Eucalyptus is an extremely fast growing tree. You can literally forest an enormous area quickly with little to no maintenance because of its reproductive qualities. It will grow practically anywhere as well. We could probably use Eucalyptus to reforest the whole planet if needed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the point of Lyptus&#8217;s sustainability is being missed. Eucalyptus is an extremely fast growing tree. You can literally forest an enormous area quickly with little to no maintenance because of its reproductive qualities. It will grow practically anywhere as well. We could probably use Eucalyptus to reforest the whole planet if needed.</p>
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		<title>By: amy</title>
		<link>http://understory.ran.org/2006/10/12/lyptus/comment-page-1/#comment-157530</link>
		<dc:creator>amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 19:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Weyerhaeuser states that they don&#039;t use all parts of the trees for flooring, cabinetry, or dimentional lumber.  Not all parts of the tree are hard enough, so in order to use as much of they tree as possible they supply other industries. Just because a company isn&#039;t certified doesn&#039;t mean they aren&#039;t a good &quot;green&quot; company.  It can be difficult talking green when referring to any wood manufacturer or supplier.  The good companies will be conscious of the green movement and be true to green as much they are able.  As Bob Villa said, &quot;At least they are trying.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Weyerhaeuser states that they don&#8217;t use all parts of the trees for flooring, cabinetry, or dimentional lumber.  Not all parts of the tree are hard enough, so in order to use as much of they tree as possible they supply other industries. Just because a company isn&#8217;t certified doesn&#8217;t mean they aren&#8217;t a good &#8220;green&#8221; company.  It can be difficult talking green when referring to any wood manufacturer or supplier.  The good companies will be conscious of the green movement and be true to green as much they are able.  As Bob Villa said, &#8220;At least they are trying.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Joey Terra</title>
		<link>http://understory.ran.org/2006/10/12/lyptus/comment-page-1/#comment-148640</link>
		<dc:creator>Joey Terra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 23:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lyptus is not a enviromental product and weyerhaeuser is by no means a green company. I would stay away from lyptus and the green washing that comes with this product. Saying that at least thay are trying is a load of B.S. You cant clear cut one section of forest and throw the consumers a green bone like lyptus and say were doing good. Pick companys that only do good. Bamboo is produced by several companies that use non-formaldehyde glues and are low in v.o.c&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lyptus is not a enviromental product and weyerhaeuser is by no means a green company. I would stay away from lyptus and the green washing that comes with this product. Saying that at least thay are trying is a load of B.S. You cant clear cut one section of forest and throw the consumers a green bone like lyptus and say were doing good. Pick companys that only do good. Bamboo is produced by several companies that use non-formaldehyde glues and are low in v.o.c&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Allen</title>
		<link>http://understory.ran.org/2006/10/12/lyptus/comment-page-1/#comment-116677</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 03:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>its tool time!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its tool time!!</p>
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		<title>By: Brant</title>
		<link>http://understory.ran.org/2006/10/12/lyptus/comment-page-1/#comment-85276</link>
		<dc:creator>Brant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 23:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric, I appreciate the dialog, but you seem to be making a pretty sweeping generalization to refute a very specific case.  How has Weyerhaeuser &quot;cleaned up&quot; Brazil?  Are you familiar with the conflict between the Tupinikim/Guaran and Aracruz in Espirito Santo?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric, I appreciate the dialog, but you seem to be making a pretty sweeping generalization to refute a very specific case.  How has Weyerhaeuser &#8220;cleaned up&#8221; Brazil?  Are you familiar with the conflict between the Tupinikim/Guaran and Aracruz in Espirito Santo?</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Seitz</title>
		<link>http://understory.ran.org/2006/10/12/lyptus/comment-page-1/#comment-85135</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Seitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 11:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My hat is off to Weyerhaeuser.  

There will never be a perfect product or supplier, it is impossible.  

I am a US ex pat in Brazil, have been in the interior of the state of Sao Paulo now for two years.  I work with regional farming syndicates.  I assist local producers by identifying and improving markets for their goods.

Foreign companies are cleaning this place up, foreign companies put the pressure on the brazilians to do things &quot;right&quot;.

Left to tend their own backyard the Brazlians would destroy the amazon, pantanal, mato atlantico, in the blink of an eye.

Do not nitpick.  If you want to make a difference then support US and Canadian companies and their employees.  They along with your dollar are the force which can make things right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My hat is off to Weyerhaeuser.  </p>
<p>There will never be a perfect product or supplier, it is impossible.  </p>
<p>I am a US ex pat in Brazil, have been in the interior of the state of Sao Paulo now for two years.  I work with regional farming syndicates.  I assist local producers by identifying and improving markets for their goods.</p>
<p>Foreign companies are cleaning this place up, foreign companies put the pressure on the brazilians to do things &#8220;right&#8221;.</p>
<p>Left to tend their own backyard the Brazlians would destroy the amazon, pantanal, mato atlantico, in the blink of an eye.</p>
<p>Do not nitpick.  If you want to make a difference then support US and Canadian companies and their employees.  They along with your dollar are the force which can make things right.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Bloom</title>
		<link>http://understory.ran.org/2006/10/12/lyptus/comment-page-1/#comment-84616</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Bloom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 14:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please address the fact that Bamboo flooring is held together with glue.
The effects upon health due to toxicity via emmissions is unknown.
No single product will meet all the criteria for a perfect model, measure you&#039;re needs and what you can compromise, then do the research!  Select the best you can get at that point,we chose Lyptus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please address the fact that Bamboo flooring is held together with glue.<br />
The effects upon health due to toxicity via emmissions is unknown.<br />
No single product will meet all the criteria for a perfect model, measure you&#8217;re needs and what you can compromise, then do the research!  Select the best you can get at that point,we chose Lyptus.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Villa</title>
		<link>http://understory.ran.org/2006/10/12/lyptus/comment-page-1/#comment-84062</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Villa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 10:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bought the weyerhauser michelangelo series and LOVE it. They may be doing some things wrong still but at least they are trying : )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bought the weyerhauser michelangelo series and LOVE it. They may be doing some things wrong still but at least they are trying : )</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Choate</title>
		<link>http://understory.ran.org/2006/10/12/lyptus/comment-page-1/#comment-72541</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Choate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2007 19:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brazilian cherry is not domestically produced.  The tree, also called jatoba, is Hymenaea courbaril which grows in South America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brazilian cherry is not domestically produced.  The tree, also called jatoba, is Hymenaea courbaril which grows in South America.</p>
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